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08-10871 Mathews (Doc. # 97) - Document Text

Case 08-10871 Doc# 97 Filed 07/02/09

SIGNED this 02 day of July, 2009.

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IN RE: )
JOSEPH E. MATHEWS, III, ) Case No. 08-10871
DEBRA D. MATHEWS, ) Chapter 7
Debtors. )



The United States Trustee (UST) moves for an examination of the debtors’ transactions with
their attorney, Mark J. Lazzo, pursuant to 11 U.S.C. § 329 and Fed. R. Bankr. P. 2017.1 The UST
argues that, in light of numerous errors and inaccuracies in the filings in this case, Mr. Lazzo
received more in fees than the reasonable value of his services to the debtors. Section 329(b)

1 Dkt. 77.

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authorizes the Court to order the return of any amount paid to debtors’ counsel that exceeds that
reasonable value. The Court conducted an evidentiary hearing on this motion on March 17, 2009
wherein attorney Lazzo and debtor Joseph Mathews testified. The Court admitted numerous
documents into evidence and took judicial notice of the Mathews’ bankruptcy case file. After
careful review of the record and the pertinent authorities, the Court is ready to rule.


This is a contested matter governed by Fed. R. Bankr. P. 9014 and is a core proceeding under
title 11, over which the Court has jurisdiction pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 157(b)(2)(A) and § 1334(b).

Findings of Fact

Debtors filed their voluntary chapter 7 petition on April 18, 2008. The Rule 2016(b)
disclosure filed with the petition indicates that debtors paid Lazzo $2,000 for his legal services in
this case.

Sometime in 2007, Joseph Mathews consulted attorney Lazzo concerning his deteriorating
financial situation and possible bankruptcy. Mathews was a construction contractor and had a
foundation repair business. Lazzo advised Mathews on selling the foundation business in an effort
to avoid bankruptcy and save the construction business.2 Mathews tried unsuccessfully during 2007
to sell several speculative homes. Ultimately, Mathews’ lenders foreclosed their mortgages on these
spec homes. Then Mathews sold all his equipment and paid what he could on his secured debt.
When he filed this petition, Mathews scheduled secured debt to lenders in excess of $1,000,000 to

2 According to Mathews, debtors lived off of the foundation business sale proceeds
during 2007.


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lenders that was secured by mortgages on various other construction projects.3

In March of 2008, Mathews entered into an arrangement with his father-in-law, Delbert
Cowel, to act as the general contractor in building Cowel a new home. Cowel paid Mathews funds
to in turn pay his vendors and subcontractors; those funds were deposited into two accounts at Credit
Union of America and Equishare Bank. Cowel’s house was incomplete at the petition date, but
debtor continued to work on it. There remained substantial funds in those accounts, but debtor
claimed to hold those funds “in trust” for his father-in-law. Debtor did not receive any money to
build Cowel’s house until after construction was completed in June of 2008. According to Lazzo,
debtors had no income in 2008 prior to filing.

The UST’s primary complaints about Lazzo’s work for the Mathews are, first, that Mathews’
schedules were inaccurate and incomplete and, second, that Lazzo did not adequately advise the
Mathews on the necessity of reading and reviewing the schedules before they were signed and filed.
The inaccuracies may be summarized as follows. On the Statement of Financial Affairs (SFA) filed
with the petition, debtor reported receiving $845,000 in gross income in 2006, $0 in 2007 and $0
in 2008. In fact, Mathews had significant, six-figure gross income in 2007, and a much smaller
amount in 2008. Question 14 of the SFA solicits information about property the debtor holds for
others. Notwithstanding that Mathews held several thousand dollars of his father-in-law’s funds in
his accounts, he answered Question 14 of the SFA “none.” While the existence of three bank
accounts was reported on Schedule B, they were only valued at $100 each. Schedule B also reported

3 See Schedule A. Other than debtors’ car loans and home mortgage loan, these
construction business debts comprised all of debtors’ secured creditors’ claims. See Schedule D.
Debtors had no priority debt and scheduled approximately $172,000 of general unsecured debt,
the bulk of which appear to be credit card debt.


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only two vehicles when, in fact, debtor was shown as a title owner of some six vehicles, four of
which were also owned and paid for by his children.

The UST’s complaint about Lazzo’s advice to debtors stemmed from Mathews’ statement
at the § 341 meeting that he hadn’t read the schedules or SFA before signing them. At the first
meeting, when the UST examined Mathews concerning his income, Mathews was “stunned” to hear
of the $845,000 income listed on the SFA for year 2006, and claimed it was a “typo.” As was later
shown, Mathews had significantly less net income in 2006, but the SFA calls for gross income and
the $845,000 amount was indeed accurate. In addition, the SFA declared $0 income for year 2007
when in fact, according to debtors’ tax return, they had $261,768 gross income from the construction
business.4 Lazzo testified that he did not have the debtors 2007 tax return at the time the case was
filed and the tax preparer’s June 2008 date on the return supports that testimony. But when Lazzo
filed an amended SFA in August of 2008, debtors reported only $64,544 of net income.5 The UST
also asserted that Lazzo should have gleaned from the debtor’s bank statements that the amounts in
each bank account, some $10,000 and $12,000, far exceeded the $100 shown. Lazzo conceded that
he did not have the April bank statements to review prior to filing and he could not say whether the
February or March bank statements would have shown the Cowel funds in the bank accounts.

The Court heard both Lazzo’s and Mathews’ testimony about the manner in which the
schedules were assembled and the extent to which the Mathews reviewed them. Lazzo and Mathews
had a long-standing relationship. Their children had participated in sports together and they knew
each other outside the legal context. As Mathews wound down his business, he worked with Lazzo.

4 Ex. 8.

5 Ex. 5.


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When he engaged Lazzo in the summer of 2007, Mathews paid him a retainer of $2,000, the fee that
Lazzo ultimately claimed for the bankruptcy. Lazzo described his dealings with Mathews in a
positive light, noting that the liquidation took some time, but that both Lazzo and Mathews knew
that bankruptcy lay at the end of the road. Lazzo indicated that Mathews provided him all the
information he requested and did not hide anything. Lazzo gathered the filing information from
Mathews and drafted schedules sometime in the Spring of 2008. He then transmitted the schedules
and SFA to Mathews and directed him and Mrs. Mathews to review them for accuracy. He had them
visit his office and gave them some time to review the papers. Mathews testified that Lazzo gave
him a draft to take home and that he “looked it over,” not line-by-line, but with a view toward seeing
that all of the creditors were included. He testified that Lazzo told him it was important to get the
papers right.

Mr. Lazzo has been a regular practitioner in this Bankruptcy Court for more than 20 years.
He has the demonstrated ability to represent many different types of debtors in each chapter and, in
this Court’s experience, is a very capable bankruptcy lawyer who represents his clients well. Lazzo
testified that it is his practice to prepare schedules, then sit down and review them with his clients.
He also testified that he imparts to them the importance of accuracy, but he is of the opinion that
some lay-people understand this better than others. This comports with this Courts’ experience in
representing debtors over 20 years of practice. Lazzo admitted that he did not have an opportunity
to study the bank statements or the car titles. He believed that Mathews told him the truth in their
interviews. Lazzo rated his handling of this case a “B+” at best.

A review of the time line in this case shows the difficulties that Lazzo and the debtors had
completing the record. Debtors filed their case April 18, 2008 and D. Michael Case was appointed


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Trustee. A month after the case was filed, debtors amended Schedule B to reflect additional
vehicles. For reasons unknown, the debtors missed the first two § 341 settings and, on June 18,
2008, trustee Case filed a motion to dismiss. That motion was withdrawn and debtors appeared for
a § 341 meeting in July. At that time, trustee Case and the UST questioned the debtors about their
affairs and Mathews’ answers served to clarify, to some degree, the issues concerning the vehicles
and the accounts. On July 13, 2008, before the § 341 meeting, the UST filed a motion to dismiss
the case for cause under § 707(a), alleging unreasonable delay by debtors prejudicial to creditors.
The UST cited debtors’ failure to attend the § 341 meeting and to provide bank statements requested.
After a period of discovery, the UST withdrew its motion to dismiss. After the § 341 meeting,
trustee Case filed a notice of no distribution (NDR) and abandonment. In August of 2008 , debtors
amended the SFA, but only to show Mathews’ net income for 2007 (gross income is what is required
to be shown). No change was made to the debtors’ initial response to SFA Question 14. Thereafter,
on October 17, 2008, the UST convened a special creditors’ meeting and examined the debtors at
length concerning these issues.6 On November 26, the UST filed the present motion.7 Only on
January 9, 2009 did debtors again amend their SFA to reflect Mathews’ 2007 gross income and
amend the prior response to question 14. This time, debtors revealed that the funds in the bank
accounts were, in fact, the property of Mr. Cowel. Debtors also amended their Schedule B to reflect
an accurate list of vehicles.


The UST proceeds under § 329 which allows the Court to examine the debtors’ transactions

6 There is no docket entry concerning this “special meeting.”
7 Dkt. 77.

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with counsel; if counsel has received more in fees than the Court deems reasonable, the Court may
order some or all the fees disgorged.8 Once the UST raises a question of the reasonableness of
counsel’s fees, the attorney bears the burden of proving his fee was reasonable.9 The factors set out
in § 330(a)(3) are typically examined when determining a reasonable attorney’s fee.10 Agreed upon
compensation of a debtor’s attorney may be excessive for a variety of reasons, including the size of
the fee, counsel’s failure to disclose the compensation as required by § 329(a), or conduct by the
attorney that diminishes the value of the legal services.11

At argument, the UST relied heavily on the ruling in In re Withrow, a Massachusetts
bankruptcy case where debtors’ counsel was sanctioned by a bankruptcy court for submitting
schedules and SFA so lacking that the judge found several violations of Fed. R. Bankr. P. 9011.12
In Withrow, the bankruptcy court articulated a five-question standard for determining whether an
attorney should be required to disgorge fees for inaccurate filings. As that Court stated,

8 See In re Bartmann, 320 B.R. 725, 751 (Bankr. N.D. Okla. 2004) (The purpose of §
329 is to protect creditors and the debtors from overreaching by attorneys); In re Merriam, 250

B.R. 724, 731 (Bankr. D. Colo. 2000).
9 In re Mahendra, 131 F.3d 750, 757 (8th Cir. 1997) (Trustee filed a motion for review of
attorney fees and motion for sanctions under Rule 9011.); In re Bartmann, supra.

10 In re Davis, 2006 WL 2404015 at *2 (Bankr. E.D. Okla. 2006) (finding $1,500
(including filing fee) to be reasonable, denying disgorgement, and setting a presumptively
reasonable fee of $1,250 in a simple, no asset chapter 7 case); In re Jones, 236 B.R. 38, 41 (D.
Colo. 1999) (reasonableness of debtor’s counsel’s fee is determined in the same manner as other
fee awards with resort to the Johnson v. Georgia Highway Exp., Inc. factors that are relevant in
bankruptcy proceedings).

11 In re Merriam, supra at 732.

12 In re Withrow, 391 B.R. 217 (Bankr. D. Mass. 2008), aff’d 405 B.R. 505 (1st Cir. BAP
2009) (Sanctioning counsel $3,585, three times the amount the attorney intended to charge
debtor for his services).


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(1) did the attorney impress upon the debtor the critical importance of accuracy in
the preparation of documents to be presented to the Court; (2) did the attorney seek
from the debtor, and then review, whatever documents were within the debtor's
possession, custody or control in order to verify the information provided by the
debtor; (3) did the attorney employ such external verification tools as were available
and not time or cost prohibitive (e.g., on-line real estate title compilations, on-line
lien search, tax "scripts"); (4) was any of the information provided by the debtor and
then set forth in the debtor's court filings internally inconsistent-that is, was there
anything which should have obviously alerted the attorney that the information
provided by the debtor could not be accurate; and (5) did the attorney act promptly
to correct any information presented to the Court which turned out, notwithstanding
the attorney's best efforts, to be inaccurate. These questions can be further simplified
and reduced to one question, their common denominator: Did the attorney do his or
her level best to get it right? More can not, and should not, be asked of any
As noted, Withrow was a § 707(b)(4) case. Section 707(b)(4) applies to allow the recovery of

attorneys fees and costs when a motion to dismiss is brought under that subsection. While §

707(b)(4) does not apply here, a motion to dismiss was brought by the UST in this case, but later

withdrawn. This Court is persuaded that consideration of these five questions is necessary to a fair

analysis of whether an attorney’s fees should be recovered under § 329(b).14

Here, it appears that Lazzo tried to impress upon Mathews the importance of accuracy in

filing the schedules. As Mathews testified, he took care to insure that all of the creditors were listed,

but scanned the rest of the filings. It is less clear that Lazzo secured the necessary documents to

effectuate a reliable review to verify what Mathews told him. Lazzo admitted that he failed to

secure and review the April bank statements and the existence of the Cowel deposits only came to

13 391 B.R. at 228.

14 These questions indirectly invoke the relevant factors enumerated in § 330(a)(3). In
particular, the Court believes these questions go to the heart of whether the attorney’s conduct
diminished the value of the legal services provided or justify the amount of the fee for the
services performed.


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light through trustee Case’s efforts later. The 2007 tax return was not available at the time of filing,
but such a large income discrepancy between years 2006 and 2007 should have led Lazzo to make
pointed inquiry of Mathews. Lazzo conceded that in a perfect case, he should have obtained
Mathews’ internal accounting records in an effort to fix the amount of the 2007 gross income. Nor
did Lazzo secure and review the vehicle titles, choosing to rely instead upon what Mathews told
him. In determining whether Lazzo employed “external verification tools,” the Court notes that
Lazzo could have performed a vehicle title search on the Internet. The only matter of internal
inconsistency was the 2007 income: surely Mathews and Lazzo both knew that the debtor would
have some income for that year since the construction business was still being operated when
Mathews came to Lazzo in 2007. Finally, Lazzo acted promptly to correct some of the inaccurate
information that was presented, but the SFA, including both the income figures and the disclosure
concerning the father-in-law’s funds held in Mathews’ accounts, was not accurate until January of
2009, some eight months after the case was filed, and after two attempts to get it right.

Lazzo admitted at trial that this was a “big” case that he “knew” would draw the attention
of the UST because of the reported large income, no income, and sale proceeds. This pre-petition
recognition does not appear to have spurred Lazzo to do anything more to ensure the accuracy of
the schedules and SFA than he normally would. If there was ever a case to inquire and verify the
debtors’ information, this would seem to be it. In fairness to Lazzo, the debtor appeared in the case
and testified under oath on two occasions and, in the course of those appearances, supplemented the
missing or inaccurate information contained on the filings. It is not unusual for counsel to rely on
the assurances of a client that he knows well, but it may not be wise. None of the missing
information harmed the creditors per se, but its absence caused significant extra work on the part


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of the UST and, likely, the case trustee. Inaccurate or missing information, especially inaccuracies
or omissions that should have manifested themselves to both debtors and counsel upon even a
surface review of the papers, cause unnecessary inconvenience and expense to the other actors in
the bankruptcy system. While it is clear that Mr. Lazzo worked hard for the Mathews over a period
of many months, the Court cannot say that he did his “level best” here because this Court has seen
him do better.

Still, circumstances militate against disgorgement in this case. First, the Court has not
encountered previous situations in which this lawyer has been accused of this sort of conduct. In
Withrow, the sanctioned attorney had been twice sanctioned for similar activities before. Second,
although it ended up being a no asset case, this is, as a practical matter, a complex business case and,
while the explanations were a long time in coming, they eventually came. Lazzo may have
justifiably relied on his client’s attention to detail in reviewing the schedules. One questions what
he could have done beyond advising his client that accuracy mattered, providing his client with a
draft copy of the papers, and being present in the office while his client reviewed them.

Further, it is clear that a substantial amount of the time spent by counsel on this case was
expended prior to filing and incident to the attempted “workout” phase of the representation. Lazzo
did not seek any additional fee for his bankruptcy services from the initial fee he obtained in 2007
when Mathews first contacted him. In the absence of any record on the point, this Court would have
to guess what portion of the fee should be returned as being “unreasonable.” The only § 330(a)(3)
factors that can be fairly applied here are whether Lazzo has demonstrated skill and experience in
the bankruptcy field and whether his compensation in this case is reasonable in consideration of


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what other similarly experienced practitioners charge for like work.15 As noted above, Lazzo has
demonstrated skill and experience in this area.

With respect to what other practitioners charge for similar work, the Court notes that this
District does not recognize a presumptively reasonable fee in chapter 7 cases. Based on the Court’s
general familiarity with Rule 2016 disclosures in consumer chapter 7 cases filed in the Wichita
Division, debtor’s attorney fees range anywhere between $850 to $2,000. Chapter 7 business cases
run at the high end of that range and can cost more. Here, there is no way, other than making an
educated guess based on its own practice experiences, that the Court can allocate the $2,000 Lazzo
received between his pre-bankruptcy workout work and his activities related to the preparation and
filing of this case. Recalling the substantial amounts of time often devoted to workout efforts, the
Court assumes that much of the $2,000 was exhausted in that pursuit. Given Lazzo’s substantial
pre-petition involvement, the Court cannot conclude that $2,000 was an unreasonable fee for this

Finally, were the Court to order Lazzo to disgorge, it is unclear that any creditors would
benefit. The case trustee has filed an NDR. The debts in this case are significant. Even if this Court
ordered a disgorgement of one-half the fees, or $1,000, it would question the efficacy of requiring
the trustee to reopen the case to administer such a small amount of money to pay what will likely
be a minuscule dividend. There is no reason to punish trustee Case for debtors’ and counsel’s errors.


The Court heartily agrees with the UST that the integrity of the bankruptcy system relies on

15 In the absence of any evidence concerning time spent or rates charged, the Court
cannot consider the first four § 330(a)(3) factors, all of which are quantitative in nature.


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the completeness and veracity of the initial filing documents. When the Court, the creditors, and
other parties cannot rely on those documents, they are sorely prejudiced. That the omissions in this
case do not rise to a level that warrants disgorgement of the debtors’ counsel’s fees does not mean
that such omissions in different or more egregious circumstances will be ignored. Unlike Withrow,
this motion was not brought under § 707(b)(4) or Fed. R. Bankr. P. 9011. No sanction was
requested against Mr. Lazzo other than a partial disgorgement. Nevertheless, counsel need to
understand that their goal in filing bankruptcy petitions and supporting documents should always
be complete accuracy on the first submission. Anything less, at a minimum, inconveniences the
other parties, even in the absence of ill-intent. Anything less than a good faith effort to submit
completely accurate filings will be viewed from the bench with alarm and may be answerable
accordingly. In the circumstances of this case, however, no disgorgement is warranted. The UST’s
motion for a disgorgement of fees in this case is DENIED.

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